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Light-bulbThe truth about the rumors, misinformation, and outright lies being spread about Gamers Unite!

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by Alan Attebery - Apr 23, 2010 Star_s29,296 views

Over the past few days, a LOT of people have been accused of cheating by their Facebook friends simply for being a member of Gamers Unite! These bullies are acting on rumors, misinformation, and flat out lies. They threaten users with reporting them to Facebook and/or Zynga and demand that they leave Gamers Unite! or be de-freinded. Other well-meaning people, who think they are helping to right some wrong, start passing these rumors, misinformation, and lies on to others without checking the information for accuracy and/or using some common sense.

I have addressed many of the most common rumors, misinformation, and lies that are being spread about Gamers Unite!, our members, and the Snag Bar. Please feel free to use any or all of the information below to rebut someone you see propagating this incorrect information. You can also use the "Share" button at the top of the post to publish this directly to your Wall.

Make sure to also check out the following threads on the forum related to these threats:

*Gamers Unite! users threatened - Please Stand Up against Bullying!

*A friend deleted me because I'm a member of Gamers Unite!

*Gamers Unite! message

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1) Can my Facebook friends see that I'm a member of Gamers Unite!?

Yes. Although Gamers Unite! has its own Web address, we don't have our own member list. Instead, we use Facebook Connect to link our site to Facebook. While you can view all the content without joining Gamers Unite!, you cannot create a thread or reply to a post. When you use Facebook Connect, the Gamers Unite! application is installed on your Facebook profile. And like all applications, anyone you have friended on Facebook can see it.

Please note: THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN HOW ZYNGA OPERATES. When you go to the Zynga forums, you cannot make a post unless you give Zynga permission to access your Facebook profile. Like Gamers Unite!, Zynga does not maintain its own username and password database. So just like any Facebook friend can see you are a Gamers Unite! member, they can also see that you are a Zynga member.



2) I have installed the Snag Bar. Can Facebook tell it's installed? Can my Facebook friends tell?

Neither Facebook nor your Facebook friends can tell if you are using the Snag Bar, just like they can't tell if you are using one of the Firefox or Google Chrome add-ons, the Zynga Tool Bar, or any of the other bars out there that have been created to help people with their games.

That said, Facebook can detect irregularities if you use the Snag Bar, or any other tool bar, irresponsibly. The Snag Bar is an automated you. It physically clicks all the reward links on your News Feed. If you are also manually clicking links on other Facebook pages while the Snag Bar is clicking links on your News Feed, Facebook may detect this. If they do, they may temporarily suspend your ability to click links. This is why we recommend you do not run the Snag Bar while you are actively browsing through Facebook.

NOTE: This temporary suspension can happen even without using the Snag Bar. In fact, it has happened to two of our staff members prior to ever using the Snag Bar. Facebook doesn't like it when you have multiple site tabs open and are rapidly clicking links on those pages. So whether you choose to use the Snag Bar or not, be careful how quickly you are clicking links.



3) Is using the Snag Bar cheating?

That is a question each person must decide for themselves. The Gamers Unite! staff does not feel using the Snag Bar is cheating any more then using Zynga's Tool Bar, any of the Firefox or Google Chrome add-ons, or copying and pasting reward links in messages to certain friends instead of posting them on your Wall is cheating. It is simply a tool to help you find rewards to use on your farm.

What a lot of the bullies don't realize is that a large portion of the Snag Bar users only use the Snag Bar when they come back to their farm after being away for a period of time. They will use it to quickly comb through their FV posts to collect any rewards that haven't been exhausted yet. They will then turn it off and collect new rewards manually.

In addition, these bullies also don't realize that the Snag Bar doesn't snag constantly. Instead, it only activates once every 60 seconds. If a FV reward is posted 2 seconds after the Snag Bar did its last sweep, there is a good chance the reward will be gone by the time the next sweep occurs.



4) Can the Snag Bar snag items before they are posted to the News Feed?

In order for the Snag Bar to snag items that have not been posted to the News Feed yet, we would have to be able to see the future. And if we could see the future, we would have already won several lottery drawings and retired to a tropical island somewhere. We certainly wouldn't be here slaving over a hot computer.

The reason people think the Snag Bar can see the future is because they don't understand how the News Feed works. When someone posts something to their wall, it instantaneously posts to your News Feed. However, the Web page you are viewing your News Feed on only refreshes at set intervals (I think it's 60 seconds, but don't know for sure). As a result, you will almost always have items on your News Feed that you won't see on your Web page until the page automatically refreshes itself or you click the browser's refresh button. The Snag Bar, as with all automation tools, reads the real News Feed, not the displayed News Feed.



5) I am a Gamers Unite! member but have not installed the Snag Bar. Why am I being accused of cheating?

This is because your accuser does not understand what the Gamers Unite! application is all about.

The Gamers Unite! application is NOTHING more than Facebook Connect. As stated above, Facebook Connect is what allows people to log into our site without us having to maintain a separate member list. This is the same system that Zynga, the creators of FarmVille, use for their Forums. When you post over there, you click Facebook Connect, and the Zynga application is installed on your Profile. When you post over here, you click Facebook Connect, and the Gamers Unite! application is installed on your profile.

The Snag Bar is a computer program that installs on your computer. It uses the same Facebook Connect application to access your News Feed. Because of this, some people mistakenly believe, while others deliberately lie, that the Gamers Unite! application is solely for the Snag Bar and, as such, proves you are using the Snag Bar.

Since both the Gamers Unite! Forum and the Snag Bar use the EXACT SAME Gamers Unite! application, there is no way of telling who has actually installed the Snag Bar. While you have to be a Gamers Unite! member to use the Snag Bar, you don't have to be a Snag Bar user to be a Gamers Unite! member, a fact that seems to be completely lost on the people crying foul.



6) A Facebook friend threatened to report me to Facebook/Zynga and/or de-friend me if I didn't immediately drop my Gamers Unite! membership. What should I do?

First of all, don't let your so-called friend bully you into doing something you don't want to do. It's one thing for someone to have and state an opinion that the Snag Bar is unfair. But to threaten you into doing what they tell you to do is so pre-school.

Second, check your so-called friend's profile. How many of those bogus "Unlock your 30X30 FarmVille Expansion" and "Get unlimited fuel and coins" groups do they belong to? If they belong to some, ask them if they plan to report and de-friend themselves for cheating. True, they weren't successful since those groups were bogus, but they did try.

Third, don't let the "I'm going to report you" threat worry you. A bully who does report you will be exposing the threats s/he have made against you and others, which will cause more headaches for them than they could ever hope to cause for you. We have had no credible reports of anyone being investigated or banned as a result of someone crying "Snag Bar". And really, have you seen how many bogus "30 X 30 FarmVille Expansion" groups are out there? If they aren't doing anything about those groups, they really aren't going to care about us.

Finally, either wait and see if your so-called friend follows through and de-friends you or beat them to the punch and de-friend them yourself. You can always find more FarmVille neighbors. In fact, if you click on the "Add Me Requests" button at the top of the page, you will find hundreds of people just waiting for a good neighbor like you.



7) A friend told me that Facebook/Zynga was going to delete/ban everyone who is using the Snag Bar. Is this true?

No, it is not true. This is another attempt at trying to coerce you into doing what they want you to do. Even if Facebook or Zynga wanted to ban people using the Snag Bar (which they don't), they wouldn't know who to ban because they have no way of knowing who is using it. Just like they have no way of knowing who is using a Firefox or Google Chrome add-on or any of the other automated tools out there.

For more information about the various delete/ban threats being made, visit the Have you received a post saying that Facebook and/or Zynga is going to delete you? Read on! thread.



8) Someone said that blocking the Gamers Unite! application will keep the Snag Bar from seeing their FarmVille posts on the News Feed. Is this true?

Nope. The only thing the bully will accomplish by blocking the Gamers Unite! application is ensuring that they will never be able to post on this site. That's it. And, quite frankly, we're perfectly fine if they bar themselves from ever being able to post here. That's one less headache for us to deal with.



9) I was told that using the Snag Bar to collect a reward will prevent anyone else from collecting it. Is this true?

Using the Snag Bar to collect items is no different than manually collecting items. It's just faster. It will not cause the reward item to shut down prematurely.

All FarmVille rewards have a set number of items available for people to collect. Most items, like the Collection rewards, Chicken Eggs, and lonely pets, are set for 3 - 5 items. Once that number is hit, and only once that number is hit, will people no longer be able to snag that item. About the only reward that is set at 1 item only are the Spring Basket Redeemables (Mystery Egg, Ewe, Gnome, Gilded Egg, Fountain, and Windmill). Once it's been snagged, that's it. There are no more.



10) I was told the Snag Bar is nothing more than a virus. Why would you do this?

We did no such thing and would NEVER do such a thing. The Snag Bar is a 100% legitimate program that contains NO malicious coding. We are so anti-virus, we keep 12 cases of Penicillin on hand at all times. Which is really problematic for me since I'm allergic to that stuff.

When you install the Snag Bar in Firefox, the CoolChaser Toolbar add-on is the only item added to your computer (go to Tools --> Add-ons to see it). When you install the Snag Bar in Internet Explorer, the CoolChaser Toolbar is installed on your computer (go to Control Panel --> Programs and Features to see it). The program then installs two add-ons to Internet Explorer: CoolChaser Toolbar and Freecause Toolbar BHO (go to Tools --> Manage Add-Ons --> Toolbars and Extensions (IE8) / Enable or Disable Add-ons (IE7) to see it). Nothing else is installed.



11) I never signed up for Gamers Unite!, yet I'm showing up as being a member. My friend said it's because you illegally added me to your member list.

We did no such thing. Facebook's own programming prevents such a scenario from happening. The ONLY way to become a Gamers Unite! member is to click the Facebook Connect icon while browsing this site. This will install the Gamers Unite! application to your Facebook Profile. This is no different than clicking the Facebook Connect icon on YouTube, Twitter, Zynga, or any other site that offers to link you up to your Facebook Profile.

If you have accidentally signed up as a Gamers Unite! member, or no longer want to be a member here, you will need to delete our application from your Profile. To do so, go to any Facebook page, and: 1) click on Accounts --> Privacy Settings; 2) Under Applications and Websites, click the “Edit Your Settings” link; 3) In the Applications You Use section, click the “Edit Settings” button; 4) Find the Gamers Unite! listing and click the “x” on the right side of the line.

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When "cheating" accusations started, Zynga put out a statement that using a bot was against the TOS of the games and that anyone using one would be banned or whatever. Tons of people that had been using it, stopped out of fear of being shut out of the game. At that moment, all the building materials, etc... that the snaggers had been posting, dried up and the games almost died. It was awful.

It is simple logic. When someone snags, they build faster and post more materials in quanity. I know from experience that there are usually 3 pop-ups or more per interaction with a build. The snaggers were posting tons and tons of stuff, for EVERYONE to enjoy, not just snaggers. There were MORE items available on the feed, not less.

Also important to note is that FB allows you to specify your post to only one person. THAT is the reason you don't get those great trees or whatever, it is because the person posting it, put it for only their mom to see or whatever. This has nothing to do with the snag bar.

Lastly, the people I know that use it are mostly working folks that do not have the opportunity to sit all day to watch the feed to "get the good stuff". By the time they get home, everything is gone. It is pretty obvious that the ones complaining of cheating are the ones that previously had a corner on the market with time on their hands.

So bottom line for me is:

With GU, there are more items on the feed. Working folks get a shot at good stuff too. Saves time and if I had my druthers, I would only have GU people as neighbors. It is playing smart, not cheating. Take a look at the people complaining: they make no bones about the fact that their haul has been reduced and they want it back. It is not for some convoluted moral argument. It is selfishness. And I find that ironic. I cannot steal what was never yours to begin with. Get it?

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i am no bully, I just can't stand the spam. I personally think that is why people do not like this. 20 likes and comments in under 10 seconds is incredably annoying. I am not about to delete or report someone for using this, it's their life, their choice, but I would appreciate if this app did not have to automatically comment on everything I post

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A nice new message put into my box this morning:

Shirley Aird

I am not sure if you are aware of this, many people aren’t with all the scams going around, but did you know that you are showing up as having dowloaded the cheat app Gamers Unite I wouldn’t want any of your other neighbors to see this, as some people would just assume right away that you are actually using it to cheat and delete you.

Below you will find the directions on how to remove this app and unlike it. You can also check your neighbors and remove them, too. This link will help you do all of that. Whatever you do, though, remove the app from your profile but don’t block it or you won’t know who is using it on your list. Let me know if you need my help. Good neighbors are hard to come by these days. See you ’round the farm. =)

Link to Removal Instructions:

http://thefarmersdaughters.com/category/cheats-and-scams/removal-instructions/

Link to Cheat App Checker:

http://thefarmersdaughters.com/2011/09/16/cheat-checker-list/
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I am not sure if you're aware of the fact that Gamers Unite! is a social network game community site where people share their tips or talk about the latest feature or news on their favorite social network games. Our site's aim is for everybody to help each other to succeed or advance successfully in Facebook games. The Gamers Unite! Application being referred to in the message is NOTHING more than Facebook Connect, a Facebook created system Websites can use to link their site to people's Facebook Profile. This allows Websites like GU! to have a membership without having to maintain their own member list. Instead, Facebook maintains the member list. Facebook Connect is the SAME EXACT SYSTEM that Zynga uses for their Forums.

The Snag Bar that Gamers Unite! offers is a completely separate download that members must manually click on in order to install. In addition, the Snag Bar only works with FarmVille and FronteriVille. There is no programming within the bar to work with any other game. In addition, the only access the Snag Bar has is to the user's own News/Games Feed. It cannot access anyone else's News/Games Feed, Profile Wall, or settings. It also cannot access anyone's farm, mafia order, cafe, zoo, pet store, or any other game. But if you feel you must delete me, then please, go ahead. But before you remove any of your "friends" from your lists, I ask you to actually go to the site and take a look for yourself to see what it's about. If you would like to read more, I direct you to here to read the full reasoning, and truth behind the rumors. http://gamersunite.coolchaser.com/topics/9790-farmville-have-you-received-a-post-saying-that-facebook-and-or-zynga-is-going-to-delete-you-read-on Thank you for the info. Cheers & Happy Gameing. :)

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I just posed this on my wall after seeing two or three gaming friends threaten to do a clean sweep of everyone using the GU app. No one ever actually gets rid of me, mostly its just grandstanding, but I couldn't help poking a little fun at my uptight neighbors, LOL.

"To all my gaming friends with a vacuum cleaner... if you do not get rid of your vacuum cleaner, I will have to delete you. I don't want to, but I just don't think its fair that you use a machine to pick up all the specks from your floor when other people are picking them up by hand. Using a bot like that is cheating. What if someone else wanted the crumbs on your floor? When you use a vacuum, you're not giving anyone else a chance to collect those crumbs! I'll be going through all my friends homes and if you have one, you're gone... CHEATER!"

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I joined GU and was initially opposed to using the Snag Bar, BUT when you consider that there are others who use "bots" and "scripts" to play Cafe World, Mafia Wars and Farmville--it balances out. My one gripe with GU and Snag Bar is that it REFUSES to provide a plug-in for Safari--the first browser to provide the WebKit that Firefox, TenFour and Chrome borrowed. That said, the new "1-click bonus" is outrageously clever on a 5gb Quad-Core Mac running Safari.

One misconception about the Snag Bar is that non-friends will grab your bonuses, which is not true. In fact, even Zynga will not allow you to send gifts, rewards or help to non-friends, so you have to be 'linked' to someone to see the feed to do Snagging. That's why the ADD ME for Cafe World, Farmville and Mafia Wars forums are so vital for GU-hardcore players. The gift exchange kind of drags with all the quests that Zynga is generating--competing with the Evony, WoW, and MMPORG's that introduced the concept of bonuses for finishing quests [hated by casual players everywhere--loved by the regulars].

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I just started playing last night and a friend told me to install the GU and I did. I'm not getting tons of stuff and very few animals, but am getting some building materials and some baby trees that I need.

When I started playing and went to the Farmville forums "Add Me" , noticed a lot of folks had it listed in their ads that they didn't want cheaters. So I skipped them.

I need trees and animals and building materials and when I tried to grab them on my own, I always got the message that somebody else had already claimed it, even it it had just been out for 1 second.

If GU is a cheat, then so is people buying stuff with farm cash that us poor people can't afford. The game doesn't give enough farm cash to do anything with.

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I am a gu user BUTT!!!.. #1 I only use chrome version.. #2 I have a SERIOUS issue with tools that constantly scan the wal every second or 2 for stuff. When a snag bar can grab something thats posted in less then 2 sec after its posted THAT IS CHEATING!!! Its not possible for 99% of folks to refresh and find each new post that quickly. and then those that do this almost NEVER click "like" cause the snag bars don't do that...
THIS is the beef folks like me have with the bar.
Before you flame me notice i said I USE GU.. but only the 1 click-accept.

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Technically snagbar is cheating. IT gives you an advantage. Even though GU and the snagbag are powered by Facebook connect it still gives you an advantage. Therefore it is a technical cheat.

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I jus added tha Snagbar and became a member of GamersUnite since Sunday!! My Farm iz lookin *FABULOUS* and I ALWAYZ cLick tha LiKe button of any of my Neighbors of whom i see that ive snagged sumthin from, and even go to tha lengths to go to my wall && make sure ive CLicked ALL my neighbors Like button. Yea i may miss a Few, but Im aLso clickin Mine as well!! So if im generally a Good Neighbor && Friend, givin tha chance. Im jus a SLOW player/person PERiOD!! Its who i am && i cant change that, why shouldnt i && tha players who concider this CheatinG be opted more assistance with catchin on to tha game?? I mean u dont tell a child in Special Education Classes ...Ohh sorry yur too SLOW so u jus cant be taught, or Yur too slow to learn so GIVE UP!! Ya FeeL me && Call it what U Want, But <<~~this bish iZ S--L--O--W-!!~~<< But theres 1 thing I AM NOT......&& THAT iS A CHEATER....A THEiF......OR A CORNERS CUTTER!! I concider this my Teachers Aide!! *WOOT* I <3 tha SNAGBAR && HAPPY TO BE A MEMBER OF GU!! *HaPpY Gamin* thanx *ShaieShaie*

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I don't wish to "inflame" the issue one way or another. As it's stated, it's my choice, and it's the choice of other people to decide to remove me or not. What I will say, is that there are a lot of fish in the sea. If someone wants to ban me for being a member of GU solely based on the snag feature, or the rumors, and lies, there are 10 to replace them either via my already existing friends network, OR via one of the many add-me forums around. people are entitled to having their own opinions... i would HOPE they make "educated" decisions, but again... it's not up to me. I'm happy to remove people for getting in my face for being a member of this community. I for one LOVE the 1-click features... I used to spend hours just collecting what people were SENDING me. Thank you GU.

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i love the snag bar but i never get any animals

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I have a person send me a private message asking me if I was one of those stealers that used Gamers, because if I was, he was going to delete me. I just sent back: do you? and he wrote back: No you do. and so I wrote him back and told him that I was not stealing, that I helped more people with gifts than I ever got and that this was my game and I would play it the way I choose and he or anyone else can delete me that wants to. I will not tell them how to use their facebook/farmville and they would not tell me. I posted a notice to all on my facebook and gave all of them a choice to delete me if they wanted because I would not quit using gamers unite. I told them there were other snag bars out there and I also added that most of my friends were invited from gamers and that I thought I would be fine with the neighbors that remained. I only lost one neighbor and that was the one that sent the message and I deleted him. sometimes my snag bar works, and sometimes it does not. don't know why, but I will not lie to keep a neighbor. And it is no ones business but mine.

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@Karen, why the hell do you even come here if all you're going to do is criticize GU users? You bitchers and moaners got the limits by your constant complaining LOL As for snag bar users grabbing everything from the feed, it's faster when you snag manually, do your research before you come here spewing garbage. :/

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I've been de-friended by one neighbour, but seriously, he was well over level 100 when he added me and I'd been on level 43 for what felt like ages, so when he messaged me asking if I use GU Snag Bar I said that I do, and he asked me my opnion on using it and I replied that it is up to the individual. If they choose to use it, good on them, if they choose not to use it, good on them! And as I said, he deleted me..... Was I sad? No. Was I disappointed? A little, as I value my neighbours... however, it was HIS choice to believe I was cheating, where as I do not, nor do I believe it IS cheating. Afterall people, it IS just a GAME.. If it is getting you this upset, do not play... Happy Farming Blessings... (=

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I just don't understand the whole big debate honestly. Some of us have lives and don't have the time to sit around staring at our feeds just to get a head in a game. I play to relax and have fun not to be accused of being a cheater for using a tool that can do the same thing I could if I sat behind a computer screen all day everyday. Does that make the non GU users that can be around all day cheaters because they're online constantly and can snag things while I'm out spending time with my children? I just don't see the issue I only run the snag bar when I'm online and it's not like I'm leveling any faster than normal but the snag bar at least gives me a chance to grab a few of the items and such that I may need in order to finish buildings and whatnot that would normally take me days to get. So GO SNAG BAR!

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I just got accused of cheating the other day and I had no idea what they were talking about. Something about coming up on some cheat list. I do not cheat and if and when the games get that serious its time to call it quits. I play for fun and because it takes my mind off of everyday problems. I do have the bar but its to do the 1 click thing so i dont have to do it manually .

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I am on dial-up. I signed onto this because I couldn't get any rewards because everyone on broadband or high speed internet got them before I could due to connection speed. Does this mean that anyone on high speed internet is cheating because they can get to the rewards faster? Come on people, put some sugar on those sour grapes.

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I'm trying to be nice. I know that alot of you dissagree with my views. It's not that it's cheating. It is the fact that the person using the GU snag bar that gives other fair players a big disadvantage because it grabs the items off of the feed before others even have the opportunity. The other problem is that they never click the like button or leave a thank you comment after they receive a bonus. We could all use better manners, it gives the gifter and the reciever a good fealing of satisfaction.

Anyway Farmville has changed a few things because of these snag bars. They only let you claim so many items from the feed and then shut you down from collecting any more bonuses and send you a message that you have claimed all the bonuses you can for the day. LOL!!! So use your GU snag bar for all I care. It just won't be as effective in collecting very many bonuses anymore. I swear people are so greedy and just can't play fair. Why would you want to cheat anyway? Whats the fun of cheating? I really don't understand it. When we all play fair it makes the game alot more fun and competitive. But I guess it takes all kinds. I'm not harrassing or bullying anyone. I just wanted to post how some people on my side of the farm fence feel. It's all in good fun. After all it is a game people. Oh, yeah people that don't like the idea that you use the GU snag bar have the same rights as you do and CAN DELETE YOU!
And for the girl who insulted me for saying this ("Geez, the older people are the more pathetic they are with threats!" from: Leah Nikolic) I'm an older person, I play the game fair and I do not threaten people. I think you need to do some growing up and be respectfull to your elders. That was a bully thing of you to say about older people. I have no beef with you. I just want to have a fair and ballanced conversation like adults do.
Happy Farming!!!

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@Pat Rimmer - People don't stop to think about de-neighboring someone before de-friending. We think that de-friending someone cuts all connections, and in some ways it does. Once you were de-friended, your posts stopped showing up on his News/Games Feed. He would have to manually go to your Profile Wall in order to see what you have posted. And even that would be determined by how you have set your Privacy Settings.

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I just had this posted in my messages: " You came up on my gamers unite check page.... What's up with that? Please tell me it's not true. I hate to have to delete you from my list." Well he deleted me from his friend page, but he is still listed as a neighbor so can he still get all the gifts I post on Facebook page? I mean if you are taking me off as a friend why would you still want my gifts. I was sorry to see him go because he plays several games that I play and he was a good neighbor and crew member.

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